1967 Family Patrol Project

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Postby mad4hws » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:50 pm

seeing a patrol flat and on pallets is a pretty weird thing. You cannot unsee it.
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Postby faux40 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:55 pm

mad4hws wrote:seeing a patrol flat and on pallets is a pretty weird thing. You cannot unsee it.

Ikea flat-pack style!
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Postby faux40 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:13 pm

It seems that motor mounts are a little hard to find! Any ideas on who may sell them? Sadly, no joy on ebay right now. Does anyone have some spare motor mounts they'd be interested in parting with? Three of the mounts are torn - I'm sure that #4 is nearly as bad! Basically, I need all four!

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Postby Esteban » Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:52 pm

John,

I'm sure those engine mounts can be fixed.

Years ago, while still living in Ecuador, my wife overturned in a MQ wagon (Patrol 160 over there) and 3 of the engine bases broke. Similar engine, with the P40 inside. Could't find any spares, and a guy sent me to a local shop that among the things they did was repairing damaged engine mounts. They basically cast again the rubber. It's an artisanal process. The mounts looked and performed very good when the job was done. I kept that car for a few months after it.

The good thing about the Patrol is that the engine is naturally balanced, so the mounts don't do much work. I've seen Patrols run with a broken base for extended periods. The rear ones specially, are difficult to spot. I think there might be some guys out there that are doing this kind of repair. Too many antiques will need them.
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Postby RiverPatrol » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:49 pm

I think I have some used ones.
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Postby jwgreen » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:00 pm

email this guy our32@aol.com

He made the rebound stops for me years ago, if you need some of those I'm sure he can make you a set of those while he is fixing your mounts.

I can not recall for the life of me what the business name is :think: :think: :doh:
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Postby Peter60 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:36 pm

4WD Products in Australia had some. I think they had a batch made.

Many G6O people have purchased brakes and 4WD stuff from them.

4WD Produts are on eBay.com.au but their engine mounts are not there. I can't seem to find their web site.

It may be worth while making contact with them.
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Postby moore_rb » Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:25 pm

Then-N-Now Automotive in Massachusetts can re-vulcanize a set of original engine mounts- I sent a set of mine to them years ago for them to make the molds from,
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Postby faux40 » Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:30 pm

Thanks all! Em and I spent a couple nights hiding out in the mountains where it's ten degrees cooler! Now back in the valley enjoying the BBQ-like atmosphere... hot and smoky!

Anyway, River has a good used set and I reached out to 4WD Products to see if they have new ones. I checked with Then-N-Now (they did my fuel pump... excellent work too) -- but they are really, really proud of their mounts! Ouch!

Hopefully I'll have an Australian answer in a day or two then I'll pull the trigger on used or new mounts!

On another note -- I've been building this for the past week. Tonight, I put it to use!

A new stand!
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It's even on wheels!

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Postby moore_rb » Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:27 am

That's awesome... 8-)

Agree on Then N Now's pricing on the engine mount restore. Definitely should be considered the "last resort, all out of other options" scenario.
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Postby faux40 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:54 pm

I've been spending Labor Day weekend (at least for a few hours each morning before the blast furnace weather kicks in) cleaning and disassembling.

I dragged the frame to the back and pressure washed the heck out of it. Check out what is stenciled on the springs! All the springs have some lettering, but very hard to read...

Under the dirt and over-spray that washed away under the pressure washer, was "NHK" stenciled on the bumper side of the front spring
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And a part number on the other side of the axle -- It's hard to read, but it looks like "540104400"
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Next the springs have left the frame!
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Next step is to de-tweak the frame from the brakes fail event! The have the frame sandblasted!
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Now I have to figure out how to clean, inspect and install new seals in the axles.

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Postby faux40 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:30 pm

Well, everything -- and I mean everything -- is stripped off the frame. However, I discovered that I'll need to cut the trans cross member open as there are some rust holes through the thin top plate... if i remove the top plate before taking it to be sand blasted, it will get cleaned up inside the cross member. I'll paint the inside and then weld a new top onto it once it's back
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See the little section that is rusting through from the inside?
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I plan to take it to the blaster on Wednesday so it can be blasted and primed along side the panels.

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Postby moore_rb » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:26 pm

faux40 wrote:if i remove the top plate before taking it to be sand blasted, it will get cleaned up inside the cross member. I'll paint the inside and then weld a new top onto it once it's back


That sounds like a good plan. It seems to be commonplace for the center crossmember to fill up with goo like that, and eventually corrode. :think:
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Postby faux40 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:02 pm

Time for a little cross-member surgery
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Peek-a-EEEEW!
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It's totally filled with gloop! (Love them safety shoes, don't you!)
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Can you dig it? I did!
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Made it to the bottom
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Swimming in simple green just before pressure washing
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And post pressure washing
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All packed and ready to go to the sand blaster tomorrow!
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All fun and games!

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Postby jwgreen » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:20 am

faux40 wrote:It's totally filled with gloop! (Love them safety shoes, don't you!)
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John!!! Those are TEXAS safety shoes!!! They only work in Texas!!! ;) ;)

How did you even get a pair of those is Cali!!!! :think: :think:
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