ckhorne's 1967 project

Builds, refurbishments, restorations, upgrades

Postby ckhorne » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:22 am

And.... this was NOT the color I wanted. I was looking for an olive drab / army green. This was "art deco green". It would look nice on a 1950's caddy or maybe a vintage bike, but not the truck that I had been sanding and prepping for the past year.

IMG_2607.jpg


IMG_2609.jpg


IMG_2610.jpg


And after dropping $400 on just the color, I wasn't too keen to order more. But... after a bunch of hand-wringing, looking at the weather, and a couple antacid's, I finally sucked it up and drove over to PPG. $400 for another 1/2 gallon and this time seeing the swatch in person. I called and talked to Barry @ SPI again, and he suggested that since I had just painted, I could tack and repaint the next day, which I did:

IMG_2613.jpg


IMG_2614.jpg


IMG_2615.jpg


And the difference between the two greens:

IMG_2616.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
ckhorne Offline

User avatar
You know you own a Patrol when…
You know you own a Patrol when…
 
Posts: 154
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:14 pm
Has thanked: 36 times
Been thanked: 94 times
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA

Postby ckhorne » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:32 am

It still wasn't the exact color I was going for, but after all that, I've decided it's the best darn color in the world....

I ended up going with a matte clear coat. I didn't want the shiny look, and SPI offered a matte clear. This comes with a couple really big restrictions: Two clear coats only. Can't be waxed, polished/buffed. Any damage requires a full panel repaint, since it can't be blended. It's not as strong as regular clear coat either. I didn't realize this was the case until after I bought it, but decided the look was still worth it.

To my shock, I was able to lay on two color coats and two clear coats on without a single drip, bug, dust spot, or fisheyes. The ghetto paint booth worked better than I expected!

There was only one notable exception - my hose bumped the very front of my hood on my last clear coat. It looks like very mild road rash, and the process to fix it is too painful to bear at the moment - it'd require sanding everything back down to the color, blocking it out, and repainting color + clear.
ckhorne Offline

User avatar
You know you own a Patrol when…
You know you own a Patrol when…
 
Posts: 154
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:14 pm
Has thanked: 36 times
Been thanked: 94 times
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA

Postby Esteban » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:42 am

I'm moving next door!!!

Outstanding work and write up. The pictures are great and your descriptions at every step are very entertaining to read.

Congratulations! :clap: :clap: :clap:

To anybody reading this, go back a couple of pages so you don't miss anything.
Owner of the same Patrol since 1967
Esteban Offline

User avatar
Helping others revive their Patrol…
Helping others revive their Patrol…
 
Posts: 1962
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:28 am
Location: Ashburn, Virginia
Has thanked: 2182 times
Been thanked: 733 times
Location: Ashburn, VA

Postby ckhorne » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:47 am

I'm moving next door!!!

Outstanding work and write up. The pictures are great and your descriptions at every step are very entertaining to read.

Thanks Esteban! That's big compliment! :)


The doors caused me a lot of heartache.

I screwed up when I painted the base on the doors. SPI sells their matte clear hardner in a standard 1 quart metal container with a blue label. By happenstance, PPG sells their reducer in the same standard 1 quart metal container, also with a blue label. And... you can see where this is going... Yup... sure enough... I mixed it up wrong and didn't realize until was done and went to clean the gun.

I ended up with this mess:

IMG_2776.jpg


Where it didn't lift, it was "sticky" and didn't cure, even after 24 hours. I was trying to avoid having to sand back down and repaint, but eventually realized that it was unavoidable:

IMG_2778.jpg


To my horror, when I painted again, this time with the correct reducer, it happened a second time:

IMG_2781.jpg


Finally, I sanded down the whole door with 220 and then 400. Took hours to finely sand it down to not go too far but still get all the offending paint:

IMG_2791.jpg


And... 3rd time's a charm:

IMG_2793.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
ckhorne Offline

User avatar
You know you own a Patrol when…
You know you own a Patrol when…
 
Posts: 154
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:14 pm
Has thanked: 36 times
Been thanked: 94 times
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA

Postby faux40 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:54 am

I like the color! Thanks for the write up! It looks awesome!

John
faux40 Offline

User avatar
Administrator
Administrator
 
Posts: 810
Images: 627
Joined: Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:45 am
Has thanked: 300 times
Been thanked: 510 times
Location: Roseville, California

Postby ckhorne » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:59 am

Finally, reassembly day comes. For those keeping track, and I hope you're not ;) it was 13 months from the first sanding picture to this reassembly. Good thing I wasn't in a hurry....

First the bib:

IMG_2894.jpg


And then the quarter panels:

IMG_2887.jpg


IMG_2889.jpg


I had help and a lot of blue tape to help get things lined up without scratching.

IMG_2891.jpg


I had purchased some welting gaskets that were supposed to fit my '67 for the front quarter panels and the bib, but they didn't fit, so I ended up making my own with some rubber from McMaster.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
ckhorne Offline

User avatar
You know you own a Patrol when…
You know you own a Patrol when…
 
Posts: 154
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:14 pm
Has thanked: 36 times
Been thanked: 94 times
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA

Postby ckhorne » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:08 pm

And finally the hood.

Before I reattached the hood, I used some universal under hood insulation in an attempt to absorb some engine noise.

IMG_2904.jpg


IMG_2905.jpg


No idea if it'll make a difference in noise while driving, but I figured now's the time to get it in.

And then I added on the hood. The hood required some pretty specific bolts (as did the dash) to be ordered in, so took a few extra days:

IMG_2895.jpg


IMG_2897.jpg


I never had the original hardware for the hood catch, so I'm likely going to go with some rubber hold downs on the sides.

Lastly, the side doors and rear doors were re-attached.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
ckhorne Offline

User avatar
You know you own a Patrol when…
You know you own a Patrol when…
 
Posts: 154
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:14 pm
Has thanked: 36 times
Been thanked: 94 times
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA

Postby ckhorne » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:21 pm

Next up: reassembly of the pedals. I should have cleaned things up before taking the picture....

IMG_2880.jpg


IMG_2882.jpg


Yes, It appears they should have been dipped and zinc coated. But they had been painted at this point, and I like the look anyway. I am having a slight problem with the gas pedal sticking, presumably because of the paint, but I'm hoping that'll work itself out. I added heat shrink around the spring behind the pedal to keep the paint from scratching up.

I still need to finish up the "cruise control" or whatever the throttle control is called. I'm likely going to repurpose a standard choke cable.

I ended up doing the same trick with the heat shrink on the side air vents - a 1/2" long piece where the handle meets the body.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
ckhorne Offline

User avatar
You know you own a Patrol when…
You know you own a Patrol when…
 
Posts: 154
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:14 pm
Has thanked: 36 times
Been thanked: 94 times
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA

Postby ckhorne » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:32 pm

I reassembled the dash. I had painted the steering wheel hub, steering column, and blinker assembly and shot clear on top of it. All the other parts were painted in the same process as the truck.

I dressed up the steering wheel itself with an $8 rubber wrap off ebay, and my daughter steel-wooled up the chrome parts on the horn.

I still plan on restoring the gauges myself, but I decided I need to hold off on that sub-project for now.

IMG_2784.jpg


IMG_2785.jpg


IMG_2786.jpg


The dash screws (not shown in these pics0 I was able to get from Fastenal: Eight 1/4"-28 x 3/4" oval screws and two 1/4"-28 x 3/4" pan head screws.

AARON713 on here is working on some reproduction dash knobs.

I'm very happy with how the dash came out - it looks almost presentable. :)
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
ckhorne Offline

User avatar
You know you own a Patrol when…
You know you own a Patrol when…
 
Posts: 154
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:14 pm
Has thanked: 36 times
Been thanked: 94 times
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA

Postby ckhorne » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:38 pm

All the screws that needed to be black or body colored were painted separately:

IMG_2874.jpg


I couldn't bring myself to spend the small fortune they want for plastic philips screwdrivers, so I sprayed the end of one of my normal ones with plasti-dip, and I was able to get them in without scratching. For socket head screws, I used a cotton ball stuffed inside a slightly larger socket.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
ckhorne Offline

User avatar
You know you own a Patrol when…
You know you own a Patrol when…
 
Posts: 154
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:14 pm
Has thanked: 36 times
Been thanked: 94 times
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA

Postby ckhorne » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:47 pm

And finally everything together:

IMG_2937.jpg


IMG_2938.jpg


IMG_2939.jpg


56290264015__E6A13684-ED18-4B94-8443-B423CAF97F99.jpg


All the external chrome pieces were replicas from ebay. I need to get the handles re-chromed... I haven't been able to source them otherwise.

Notable things left:
- Windshield: I've pulled it apart, and I have a serious amount of rust on the bottom of the windshield and it's beyond my ability to fix. I'm currently debating on sandblasting and having it fixed or buying a replica off ebay. I'd rather have original, but the cost of a replica is fairly low compared to the alternative..
- Seats: They've been taken out so the frames can get sandblasted and painted black, and I'll have them re-upholstered to a different color to match everything else.
- Rear tire carrier: Needs to be sandblasted and painted.
- Heater: lots of rust, so needs some work + painting, and I don't have a heater core, so I'll need to track one down.
- Wheels: sandblasted and painted or powder coated black. And new tires
- Line-x: The inside is almost cleaned up to the point where it's ready.

I also caused some kind of weird electrical problem with my reassembly, even though I made minimal disconnects when I took it all apart. I replaced all the wiring with a new harness myself (see a lot of pages ago), so it's going to just take some tedious debugging.

Sigh... I'll never be done...
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
ckhorne Offline

User avatar
You know you own a Patrol when…
You know you own a Patrol when…
 
Posts: 154
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:14 pm
Has thanked: 36 times
Been thanked: 94 times
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA

Postby ckhorne » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:30 pm

Actually.... I'd like to get some opinions...

Here's the bottom of my windshield currently:

56506602005__463282EF-8940-48EB-9C3B-1B449BD5E5FB.jpg


56506600633__38B8591C-FF3E-46FF-9048-4505D2901165.jpg


The whole thing, stripped down:

IMG_3043.jpg


My options are: sandblast the windshield ($100?) and have body work done ($250+?) or go with a reproduction like this for $630 shipped; with the latter, I'm kinda guaranteed that it should work, but I don't know if they can supply a 3-vent version...

Thoughts?
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
ckhorne Offline

User avatar
You know you own a Patrol when…
You know you own a Patrol when…
 
Posts: 154
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:14 pm
Has thanked: 36 times
Been thanked: 94 times
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA

Postby RiverPatrol » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:44 am

That's a labor of love, indeed. I could never get away with doing that here, driveway or even in the back yard; neighbors would throw a fit, EPA regulations...

Probably best to fix the windshield frame. The reproductions won't have the triple vents, since those were phased out in '68. All the reproduction pieces are for 70's vehicles.
Beyond any hope for intervention

Image
RiverPatrol Offline

User avatar
Administrator
Administrator
 
Posts: 5530
Images: 715
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:42 am
Has thanked: 3182 times
Been thanked: 1062 times
Location: Temecula, CA

Postby ckhorne » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:54 am

RiverPatrol wrote:That's a labor of love, indeed. I could never get away with doing that here, driveway or even in the back yard; neighbors would throw a fit, EPA regulations...


I try to respect my neighbors as much as possible, and anything outside is only setup during a single day. My HOA hasn't complained yet. I'm a little surprised, but until someone complains, I'll roll with it.

I've done a fair amount of research on EPA regulations. The latest EPA regulation (rule 40 CFR Part 63, Subpart HHHHHH (6H)) that applies to stripping and painting automotive paint, allows an individual to paint up to 2 vehicles per year for personal use, as long as the paint don't contain lead, cadmium, or other heavy metals. See the EPA brochure here. However, state, local, and HOA restrictions may still apply.

Probably best to fix the windshield frame. The reproductions won't have the triple vents, since those were phased out in '68. All the reproduction pieces are for 70's vehicles.


Thanks. I sent them an email last night, and they confirmed that they only have the 2-vent windshield frames.
ckhorne Offline

User avatar
You know you own a Patrol when…
You know you own a Patrol when…
 
Posts: 154
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:14 pm
Has thanked: 36 times
Been thanked: 94 times
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA

Postby L60Boerne » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:55 pm

I have a fairly rust free windshield frame, three vents if I recall so it pre-67. It is sand blasted and primed if I recall. If you have any interest just let me know.
L60Boerne.
63 Soft Top
65 No Top
L60Boerne Offline


I love driving my Patrol!
I love driving my Patrol!
 
Posts: 899
Images: 0
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:50 am
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 551 times
Location: Boerne, Texas

PreviousNext

Return to Projects

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests