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Postby L60Boerne » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:45 pm

Greetings,

Just a note to say our hunting party just travelled 200 miles by Polaris Ranger on the O6 Ranch. The 06 is one of the most historic TX ranches. It was founded before TX was a state, then it was a country.

It runs from Alpine to Ft. Davis in likely some of the most scenic mountains in Texas.

The ranch roads climbed mountain switchbacks that made me want to be looking up at a lizard's lower lip.

Once above the cap rock we had to scale down the shear cliffs to cull the feral Aoudads overgrazing their ranch. Google Davis Mtns. They live in the cliffs... so your don't get to use plural adjatives as just one misstep leads to just one outcome.

We hope to see the other half of the ranch next year.

Patrolling in a Polaris this week,
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Postby RiverPatrol » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:44 am

Very cool, sounds like another awesome trip. Had a Polaris Ranger myself. Don't know that I ever put that kind of mileage on it at one go, but certainly could have.
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Postby L60Boerne » Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:13 pm

Greetings Patrol Ninjas Worldwide,

My white 63 Patrol requires one last fix. I'm seeking another round of sharp advice before I turn it over to Eddy the Eagle.

The problem is that I can turn the steering wheel 4-5 inches before the tires move. Or when no turn is required the wheels kinda take a course of their own choosing.

Where should I direct Eddy to look first?

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Postby Esteban » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:04 am

Take a look at the diagram below. Since you have a lot of play, I will check them in the order marked:

1) Drag Link Terminals
The Plug-Ends #8 can be adjusted. Please note that you might want to check the condition of the springs #7. On one occasion a spring broke on mine and caused a lot of free play.
The Stud-Ball #11 can be rotated 90° if it shows some wear, so the matting surface will be new again.

2) Adjust the free play at the steering box. Very simple and straight forward. Don't overdo since it will be difficult to move the steering wheel.

3) Check the condition of the tie-rod ends. These can be adjusted following the procedure in this thread:
http://www.60patrol.com/forum/viewtopic ... 23&p=17770

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Postby RiverPatrol » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:02 am

:text-yeahthat:

What he said. ^ That is quite a bit of play.
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Postby L60Boerne » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:07 am

Thank you Esteban, we will use your information this week.
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Postby L60Boerne » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:05 pm

Esteban,

Eddy the Eagle has pulled my drag link apart. The first interesting "find" is that my drag link did not have springs, nor a place where springs might go. He tightened and adjusted everything but no improvement.

Next, we will align the tires and stress test the rebuilt Birfield joints.....again.

Lastly, we will likely need a replacement steering box. Do you, or anybody, know of a modern heavy duty replacement steering box? Any manufacturer is fine.

Then, if I must keep the existing steering box it has started dripping some fluid since Eddy started. Does anyone know which seals fit the steering box?

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Postby Esteban » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:33 pm

L60Boerne wrote:Esteban,

Eddy the Eagle has pulled my drag link apart. The first interesting "find" is that my drag link did not have springs, nor a place where springs might go. He tightened and adjusted everything but no improvement.

Next, we will align the tires and stress test the rebuilt Birfield joints.....again.

Lastly, we will likely need a replacement steering box. Do you, or anybody, know of a modern heavy duty replacement steering box? Any manufacturer is fine.

Then, if I must keep the existing steering box it has started dripping some fluid since Eddy started. Does anyone know which seals fit the steering box?

Needy as usual,
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I partially dismantled the steering box 3 years ago. The seal is 32 x 45 x 8 mm. The one I found on eBay at that time was 32x45x7mm and has being working very good. No leaks. Due to ageing it's natural that this seal has failed in yours.

Metric Oil Shaft Seal 32 x 45 x 7mm Double Lip Price for 1 pc

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Metric-Oil-Sha ... 0147!US!-1


Too bad that the springs were missing on the drag link. At this point Eddy the Eagle should check the steering box before dismantling it. If the amount of play that you mentioned is caused by the steering box alone, it's probably a goner. The bearings inside are unobtanium, since nobody has been able to produce yet a meaningful aftermarket number for a replacement.

He should be aware that the adjuster on the steering box cover, do not adjust the steering box as it happens on other boxes. The backlash inside the steering box is corrected by the shims, and the adjuster only keeps the roller shaft in position.

Regarding fitting a different steering box, anything is possible, but I don't know what the donor vehicle should be.

Maybe member Coyote Patrol can have some insight regarding it.
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Postby L60Boerne » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:51 pm

Thank you Esteban, I really appreciate your response.
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Postby mad4hws » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:57 pm

L60Boerne wrote:
Eddy the Eagle has pulled my drag link apart. The first interesting "find" is that my drag link did not have springs, nor a place where springs might go. He tightened and adjusted everything but no improvement.

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I have some spare springs from my broken drag link. Happy to send them to you if you'd like. If it's a stock drag link, they should fit.
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Postby L60Boerne » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:20 pm

Thank you but Eddy says there is no place to even use a spring? He is pretty sharp. Any chance you would have a picture of where they should be? Or some way we can verify that i do actually have an OEM drag link?

Your offer is greatly appreciated. I want to take you up on it as I feel he just wasn't looking in the right spot for where the springs should be.
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Postby RiverPatrol » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:59 pm

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Postby L60Boerne » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:07 pm

Thank you River patrol. Your tireless efforts on our behalf is deeply appreciated.
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Postby plateaucal » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:46 am

I wonder if this would be an opportunity to try to source these parts from JointFuji?
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Postby L60Boerne » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:18 am

Plateucal,

I think I have all the parts except the steering box. Does their inventory list a steering box? I'd buy one... even if I ultimately don't need it.

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