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Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:04 am
by L60Boerne
Well done! Though a bit expensive on the front end .....there is no doubt it is cheaper in the long run to do it right with an experienced mechanic the first time.

If I ever bought another Patrol it would be a LHD wagon. But I'm not in the market right now. I am ready to get the red sleigh out of Eddy the Eagle's shop, though several things still must be rebuilt and returned to The Eagle but making good progress.

The missile is on the launching pad now! Fueling up soon.

L60Boerne

Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:35 am
by mad4hws
Work continues on the Minion Missile. Having installed the front axle over Thanks giving weekend, this past weekend we (Minion #2 and I) installed the rear axle.

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We got really lucky and had a good outside day. Perfect for this task. December in New England and we're in shorts? Crazy. The Patrol gods were looking down on us for sure. So now we have the old axles removed and the new axles mounted to the springs. I would hesitate to say they are installed, because none of the connections have been made: Steering linkage, sway bars, shocks or brakes. Still, we have a "roller", which is important. With me hosting the rocket club (20 kids this year) in my garage, we need all of the space we can find, which means every Monday the Patrol has to stay outside. Once that meeting is over though, we can push her in and work on all of the other parts in a heated an well lit space.

Crawling around under it, I had the chance to look at that rear crossmember (which is also the rear bumper) again with the gas tank out. It is really rusted out. U beed ti take care of that as soon as I get everything else put back together. The support under the transmission is also shot, although a roadside fix has been done to keep it structurally sound. Hopefully we can do this so that it doesn't end up in a complete frame off restoration. I've got plenty of time to think about that though and plenty of work to do up to that point. Until next time, slow and steady signing off.

Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:55 pm
by mad4hws
Did you know that Amazon sells antiques?

I found that amazon had the automotive grade studs that go in the front axle, so I ordered them up. Here's what arrived. Vintage 1995! (look at lower right hand corner of the card stock).

I'm going to feel a little bad liberating these... just a little.
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Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:05 pm
by mad4hws
Today I picked up the driveshafts for the Patrol. Brand spankin new. The diameter of the front is 3.0" and the back is 4.0", both a bit larger than the stock 2.5". I haven't had a chance to really inxpect these too closely, but it looks like the splines are a bit longer than the stock ones. The goal is to get these mated up to the newly refurbished axles this weekend. Note that my patrol is a medium wheel base model, so the rear shaft length is longer than most of you are probably used to seeing.

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Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:09 pm
by Esteban
Congratulations! They look outstanding. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Can you ask them what U-joints where used, and if they had to do anything special to fit them?

The diameter of the original driveshafts is less, but wall thickness is a lot more than a regular what we normally see.

Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:27 pm
by mad4hws
Believe it or not, u-joints were purchased from Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C6 ... UTF8&psc=1

I got the part number from the 1973 Parts catalog - 37125-44025 and had them in the box ready to use on the old drive shafts. I took them with me to the machine shop. There was no mention of these not fitting or additional work required to get them to fit. I will ask him when next I see him out difficult these were.

Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:49 pm
by Esteban
mad4hws wrote:Believe it or not, u-joints were purchased from Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C6 ... UTF8&psc=1

I got the part number from the 1973 Parts catalog - 37125-44025 and had them in the box ready to use on the old drive shafts. I took them with me to the machine shop. There was no mention of these not fitting or additional work required to get them to fit. I will ask him when next I see him out difficult these were.


Thanks for the information. The part item says: Febest - Nissan Universal Joint 30.2X94 - Oem: 37125-44025

The 94 refers to overall out to out in mm. That's 3.7" which is bigger than what we've been dealing with. The 30.2mm is 1.188" that the original caps have. Very intriguing.

Do the machine shop attached the original yokes to the new driveshafts or they used new yokes for that portion?

Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:05 pm
by mad4hws
the original yokes were used. I'll call on Monday and see if he had any difficulties with fitment.

Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:14 pm
by mad4hws
I replaced the rear shaft seal and filled it up with 85W oil. There was no leaks after 2 days, so I assume that the seal is doing its job and that I did an okay job installing it. I got the new drivelines installed.

Next, onto the fuel system. I had the gas tank refreshed when we took the axles off. It had a ton of pin holes. once those were all fixed up, it was sealed. It doesn't look pretty, but as long as the gas doesn't leak, I don't much mind. We got that installed.

Next, onto the carb. I sent it out to Carburetor Specialists in Alpharetta GA for a complete overhaul. I hope it works as good as it looks.
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I also pieced together some new linkage to replace the road side fix that became permanent. I gotta hand it to whoever did this - creative.
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Here is the carb installed. I don't have a choke, which could explain some of the disconnected linkage. But, something else still seems wrong. I have to do a little research on the forum to see what I can find:
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Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:13 pm
by Esteban
Looks well done! Hope it will run good.

I will see if I have the choke cable and knob.

Where did you source the replacement linkage rod? Looks great.

Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:31 pm
by Mattbob53
That first link is about as creative as it gets.


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Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:14 pm
by mad4hws
Esteban wrote:I will see if I have the choke cable and knob.

Where did you source the replacement linkage rod? Looks great.



Here's M5 carb hardware fit like a glove. I did neet to trim them down a tad, but there was plenty of thread left:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CARBURETOR-THR ... 41deef7a19

I think I purchased a choke cable and knob somewhere along the way. It's in the build pile somewhere I think. If anyone has a reference picture of how the cable runs and connects to the VHA, it would be very helpful.

Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:20 pm
by mad4hws
Happy new year everyone! Today Minion #3 and I did a little work on the Minion Missile. Our goal was to connect up the steering gear and linkage.

Here's the old drag link and the replacement (thank you Ron)!
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I hadn't noticed this originally, but the Tie Rod was just as bad as the Drag Link. These permanent road side fixes are everywhere! it's like "where's Waldo" to try to find them all and get them all fixed.
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The drag link internal components all cleaned up and ready for some new grease and re-assembly.
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#3 Minion pumping some gear oil into the newly rebuilt differentials.
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Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:43 pm
by Esteban
Thanks for all the information posted.

Really interesting fixes that are showing up on your Patrol. Very unique! :twisted:

It's great to see your kids helping you with some of the tasks. Will give this project a whole new meaning.

Happy New Year!

Re: Minion Missile - 1973 Colombian Patrol Project

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:57 am
by mad4hws
this morning I installed the drag link so that I could back the patrol out of the garage for a rocket meeting we're having today. I was going to install the drag link seal that I purchased from Ross at Sports import, then realized I needed 2 and not just one. While in my parts pile, I also noticed the toyota seals that I purchased as a substitute. Here's a picture of the two. The toyota seal on the right is much smaller diameter. I hope Ross has a few more of these - at $40 apiece, not cheap, but I think it's better than the alternative (which isn't that much cheaper)

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