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Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:09 pm
by L60Boerne
Here are a few pics from the Santa's Sleigh.

Patrolling today!
L60Boerne

Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:55 am
by L60Boerne
Greetings Patrol Universe,

Today, we had a film crew out to The Lair filming a spring turkey hunt. Part of the show was an interview with me on local Indian history of the ranch.

The plan was for me to drive up in Santa's Sleigh.

Well, sad to report the NAPA carb Eddy the Eagle put on isn't reliable. It appears the needle valve sticks starving the motor.....

So at midnight we had to leave it in the field after we used it's winch to recover a stuck 4x4.

I have four certified mechanics with me, three of which are engineers. We will get it running and leave it at a shop in town. It needs Plateaucal's leaf springs installed anyway.

Might go back to a Rochester.

More as the day unfolds....

Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:56 am
by RiverPatrol
Well, it looks good anyway.

Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:56 am
by L60Boerne
Patrollees... sometimes it just goes like this......

But Santa's Sleigh was about to recover one Ford F250 4 x 4 at midnight before the needle value really stuck for good. Chinese NAPA carb is getting one more chance.

It needed to go to the shop anyway to install Plateaucal's leaf springs and a manual throttle among two or three other little fixes..

Patrolling with a marked limp today,
L60Boerne

Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:30 pm
by L60Boerne
Since we towed the sleigh back to Santa's workshop it has been built back better than the Bionic Man.

When the sleigh treds back on the hollowed Lair soil it will roll the the following fixes:

a). Manual Throttle from Matt McTree. I'm having a secondary retaining bracket made so it can be pulled out and "set" so it will work like a slow speed cruise control.
b). New Fuel Pump from Forklift (Scott thinks it was a failing fuel pump more than a stuck valve needle)
c). New Coil Over Shocks, the beefed up leaf springs Plateaucal so graciously shipped me were too beefy, they raised the front end 2". I'm all about overkill but in this case I think shocks will fix the problem.
d). Fresh oil in both axle housings; front was said to have a molasses look to it while the rear lacked any at all. It was described as dusty.
e). Transmission Fluid was a bit low
f). New Electrical Cut Off Selector Switch.

Ok, I think that is it for now,
Patrolling with everyone's parts,
L60Boerne

Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:50 pm
by rjiggy
Should be no need for the secondary bracket on the manual throttle. Simply set the desired throttle position and turn the knob clockwise to lock it in place. Counterclockwise to release.

Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 6:46 am
by L60Boerne
Thank you, That is the way the old Willys worked. I wondered why Nissan didn't have the same feature. I did notice that effect when field testing the one Eddy just installed on CCV5 but I thought it was just sticking.
Big thanks.
Patrolling with a new twist,
L60Boerne

Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:39 am
by L60Boerne
Greetings,

This Patrol will not run after warm. It runs progressively shorter and shorter from 10 mins running to running for a few seconds. It dies without sputtering.

Resource info:
New fuel line, tank, filter and pump
New Petronics
Original waterproof distributor
New NAPA carb
It runs perfectly until stops without sputter then will not restart until sitting 5 mins.

Both of my mechanics are stumped. It seems heat related to me.

Any help would be appreciated.
L60Boerne

Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 10:28 am
by r1lark
Coil breaking down when hot?

Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 1:31 pm
by plateaucal
Vapor lock? Check the carb. when this happens to see if the accelerator pump will squirt gas. Try it a few times. Did any of the new gas lines get run too close to then engine? Next check spark with a spare plug. Hook up the plug and ground the side on the block. Is spark good? Did you ever hook up the ventilation lines to the distributor? They are there for a reason.

Choke stuck closed?

Will it restart and run briefly each time or does it eventually just die and not start at all.

Does it run smooth when it is running?

A loose wire to the distributor? Check volts to Petronix.

Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 3:44 pm
by Flaggoni
Couple other possibilities...The vent line on the fuel tank could be plugged, causing a vacuum in the tank.
Is there another, possibly plugged, filter built into the carb inlet?
Good luck. You’ll get there.
Mild Bill

Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:59 pm
by plateaucal
Flaggoni wrote:Couple other possibilities...The vent line on the fuel tank could be plugged, causing a vacuum in the tank.
Is there another, possibly plugged, filter built into the carb inlet?
Good luck. You’ll get there.
Mild Bill


Good thoughts. Just remember David, there are only two things that will cause it to do this....no fuel or no spark. Which one will narrow down the possibilities. And that is the beautiful thing about old cars.

Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:14 pm
by L60Boerne
Thank you all. About the time Santa's Sleigh was having it's problems my Mom's house got hit by a tornado in Arkansas so I had to drop everything and run up here to help her get some things before the three massive oak trees that fell on it collapsed it for good.
I will be back at The Lair Saturday night.

Eddy the Eagle ran the fuel lines so I'm betting it isn't that. First we will look into the Petronix and coil.

Yes, it restarts, then after 3 restarts it doesn't. It seems to me after it cools it restarts. The colder it is, the longer it runs before cutting off abruptly...no sputtering.

Thank you, I've gotta return to work at hand.

Patrolling again soon,
L60Boerne

Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2019 8:34 am
by Esteban
Sorry to hear about the damage to your Mom’s home.

Your mechanics seem to be on the right track. Probably the coil could also be at fault. You can try with another coil. No need for the Pertronix one while you troubleshoot.

Re: L60Boerne's Santa's Sleigh

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2019 12:09 pm
by mdawg4x4
Sorry to hear about your mom's house. Hope she is OK and can get life back together quickly.
Post up a picture of the electrical cut off switch when you get it mounted. I bought one also but haven't decided where to put it. I'm thinking somewhere out of sight since these things aren't that secure. Not that there are a lot of undesirables running around my neighborhood looking to steal for old Patrols with a manual tranny.