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Postby plateaucal » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:52 am

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Postby curlrider11 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:06 am

Have never tried them but they look like the waterproof kind or the originals. I go with the cheapo NGK BP6ES since removing and replacing my waterproof distributor and wires with forklift ones. Nice find though.
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Postby L60Boerne » Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:13 pm

Way to go ...Dr. Jones. The holy grail....of spark plugs....is within grasp.....now do I need to have my wife stick her hand into a bag of spiders to get a set?

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Postby plateaucal » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:41 am

Here is the application data that says they should fit.
https://www.fme-cat.com/overlays/part-d ... ark%20Plug
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Postby RiverPatrol » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:37 pm

Is there a way to tell if they are the same heat range as the NGK-BP6ES?
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Postby Esteban » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:16 pm

I was checking the link that Plateaucal posted, and the heat range on those spark plugs in 12.

I recalled that back in the days I would use regular Champion N9Y spark plugs or NGK BP6ES. I don't have the water protect distributor. The N9Y Champions heat range is 9.

The parts manual mention a number of choices
B5ES - This will be equivalent to a N12 or N14 (hotter) in Champion.

So I guess those spark plugs are correct.

And to amaze me even more, supposedly Rockauto has them at $14.92 ea. I just checked with a 1967 Patrol!!
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Postby plateaucal » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:17 pm

The NGK BP6S is on step cooler according to this chart. https://www.briskusa.com/spark_plug_cro ... ange_chart
And it appears that the OEM NGK is the same heat range as the waterproof Champion 616. Pretty cool.
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Postby L60Boerne » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:35 pm

All great research and info. I bought those Champion plugs Plateaucal found.


Now since RockAuto has the plugs, would they have wires as well?

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Postby Esteban » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:05 pm

L60Boerne wrote:All great research and info. I bought those Champion plugs Plateaucal found.


Now since RockAuto has the plugs, would they have wires as well?

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I checked right now, and they list the wires as well but are the incorrect ones. They're the regular type and for a 4 cyl engine. When you click on their compatibility list, it shows different models, all with 4 cyl engines! Don't buy!
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Postby L60Boerne » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:45 pm

Thank you Esteban. As shown, they can be made when I get past some bigger issues.
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Postby r1lark » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:08 am

Esteban wrote:I was checking the link that Plateaucal posted, and the heat range on those spark plugs in 12.

I recalled that back in the days I would use regular Champion N9Y spark plugs or NGK BP6ES. I don't have the water protect distributor. The N9Y Champions heat range is 9.

The parts manual mention a number of choices
B5ES - This will be equivalent to a N12 or N14 (hotter) in Champion.

So I guess those spark plugs are correct.

And to amaze me even more, supposedly Rockauto has them at $14.92 ea. I just checked with a 1967 Patrol!!


While rockauto.com does list these 616 Champions, when you try to add them to your cart they tell you they are out of stock.
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Postby L60Boerne » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:21 am

Well, it appears the eBay I-Brake reseller of the RockAuto inventory is also "out of stock".

No spark here.

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Postby zed » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:13 pm

Side by side comparison:
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I am still using the "original " plugs that were on the Patrol when I purchased it.
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Postby plateaucal » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:27 pm

Zed, can you post a photo of the spark plug end of the spark plug wire? As detailed as possible. We are going to try to make the Champions work. Thank you.
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Postby L60Boerne » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:32 pm

Thank you Zed, I can see Plateaucal's wheels spinning now.

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