Side Window Rubber Install

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Postby bosque » Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:30 am

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Looking at my side window, I knew I'd need to get after it and luckily some like minded folks came up with a solution to the rubber being nonexistent. Make a mould and have it made. That has happened and for a few years now successful batches of 10 sets are made, sold and distributed by Patrollers. (See Parts for the latest possible batch list.) Second hurdle was the support metal that goes inside the rubber. One side goner one side pretty weak. Note that the original metal has holes in the bottom. I guess thats for drainage. This also tells me the design of these side windows is to drain rather than be sealed or siliconed. I wanted to fight this but check it for yourself.
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New metal needs to be made. I found a heating and air guy with a big sheet metal bender cut some galvy strips from his scrap and made the angle strips but I needed to crimp....
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To acheive the curve, the angled sheet metal must have a crimped relief = "Crimple" or "Crimplers"...my take on making a crimp, dimple, pliers, hand held in the driveway DIY special.
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"Crimplers" I notched one side of some line pliers and simply duct taped a piece of a 8d nail cut-off to the other so they will correspond.
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Make a jig to shape the metal. Jig size 12 1/4" x 29 1/2" with 4 7/8" radius corners. Discussed later: Spacer washers are 3/4" x 1/8" disc shaped #4 x 5/8" screw. Window stops are 1/4" x 1/4" x 3/4".
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Make some clamping holes on the jig. Clamp everything to a bench and while you shape it, keep it tight...no slack. :ugeek:
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:!: :!: :!: Drill baby, drill :!: :!: :!:
While your at it drill some 1/2"- 3/4" drain holes in the bottom near where the old ones were. Remember you will be fastening the bottom to the body sill too so make space for all.
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I drilled and riveted but spot weld would be nice...whatever approach to get it done. Rivets. I knocked out the steel shank after pressing a bit then hit them flat with a hammer. Rivet, Spot weld, weld, epoxy...it'll all work. I would put this lapped joint on the bottom when I drill some drain holes. The top of the window rubber seals and the bottom, I think is designed to drain out the gap made by the disk/shims at the bottom sill. Drain holes need to be clear of where shims and their fastening screws will be. This is a good time to dry fit the metal to double check your fit...before you cut the rubber :!:
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And on to the rubber :!:
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Mock fit the rubber onto the finished metal and mark a reference mark.
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Serious Biz. New blades only. I cannot stress enough this part of the procedure. This is the "Money Cut" :!:
I would recommend using a new long razor knife, the razor type about 1/2" wide that you can break off 1/4" bits at a time. I didn't have one so I used a new single edge blade in hand and after making a mark where the two ends will meet. A good technic is to hold the sides of the rubber firm, channels up, and chop straight down to cut. I chose to make a diagonal splice because this will give more surface area for a strong end to end bond and bears less of a chance sliding widow and debris will catch the edge.
Cut one side first then, lay that cut over the other side, scribe with a pencil and carefully chop cut the other side. I did have to shave a bit more off to make the cut faces align. Think before you cut and make surely sure that the rubber is fitted down into the metal corners, no slack before cutting. :ugeek:
I super glue gel the ends in sections because you'll never get the whole thing in one go and muckle it. What I mean is that there are a lot of profiles to meet together and glue successfully, no screw-ups. Glue in sections. I used a scrap piece of the angle metal to support and hold while pinching ends together. Carefully take it off the scrap metal before it dries too much.
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Once dried well, fit the rubber and metal together. The metal, rubber and windows come out and go in as one unit. A bit of a juggle so more hands help. The small lip that keeps the windows from falling out becomes tighter when the shims are fitted.
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Once the shims are fitted underneath the possibility of the windows popping out are gone, the gap is closed. Mind you these measurements were for my Patrol, you may want to make shims of different thickness to dial in the fit.
The shims need to be a stiff non corrosive plastic or...at least 3/4" so it makes a flat platform for the rubber and metal AND windows. I slipped the shims in after I put window unit in. The shims should be about 1/8". I sealed old holes and drilled new ones in the bodys sill and used #4 x 5/8" phillips heads through shims. I have not yet but stops are maybe overkill except if you push so hard you tear the rubber.
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The stops are just pieces of rubber with a #4 screw through them that act as a bumper stop for the window. When you simulate the square cornered window hitting the round radius corner of the window frame you'll see their possible usefulness.
BTW, I could not wait for paint and realized that I can just spot prime with rust converter and install NOW and remove for paint later. BTW, a tad of contact cement on the inside cab inner seal will help when the real install happens.
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Postby miksum56 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:30 am

Forum dead this morning so I reread this thread. What a great job Dave as much with the presentation and detail of the work! :clap:
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Postby bosque » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:29 am

I recently wrote to the person who makes the rubber to give thanks and to tell about 60P. This was really a good effort and I hope worthwhile. Those dyes are not cheap to make and we Patrollers will need more in the future. Think about the difference the rubber parts really have on your ride compared to say paint..... you can have a "faded" maybe "ratty" looking Patrol with new rubber that I would considered "clean" but I would not feel the same about a Patrol with fresh paint and old rubber falling out and the rattling on dirt roads...... :angry-steamingears:
My directions are longwinded (who me?) compared to the ebay ad that was selling but I had extenuating circumstances while the metal was toastish! The best part for me was inventing the Crimplers.....I think. :think:
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Postby XploreNV » Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:29 pm

Great read, Thanks! I'll be referencing this on Saturday when I get some time to tackle the install.
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Postby XploreNV » Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:38 pm

I am working on this install right now and quickly finding out this is near impossible to do without a second set of hands. Someone has to hold it in from the outside while the other sets the gasket to the window lip from inside.

My neighbor offered a hand and now he wont answer the door. Ugh
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Postby RiverPatrol » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:58 pm

Well, I won't say that it's easy, but it can be done. I did it myself just a few months ago, and I'm a girl, with rheumatoid arthritis. ;) And that was before the hip replacement.
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Postby XploreNV » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:12 pm

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Got them in and they look great! Thank you to everyone who gave me guidance on this issue!
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Postby moore_rb » Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:42 pm

Hey that looks really great!
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Postby RiverPatrol » Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:00 pm

Nice job!
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Postby GARYSCC » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:43 pm

I actually found it near impossible to install the glass after the seals were in place. Literally, I did not have the strength. So, I pulled the seals back off, and installed the glass in the seals and frame off the patrol. I put blue tape on the hardtop at locations of the screw holes. Then, I installed the set as a piece into the hardtop. I had to be careful that the glass didn't fall out during the installation, but it went pretty smoothly and the end result was perfect.
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