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Re: Cadflat Bead Roller Project.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:19 am
by Oddbod
I think that I have become a little lazy during this current lock down and my old age.

I have spent quite a bit of time fooling around with the sheet metal portion of my hood project with little to show for it.

I have removed all the surface rust from both sides of the inner and spent much time test fitting the inner and outer skins to a point where I am happy with the fit. I have tried to ensure that one skin is not stressing the other and the fix is more a naturally compatible.

I have gone over the inner and tried to remove or should I say reduce the number of highs and lows in the sheet metal.

Since the outer face of the inner sheet is not seen, I have basically ensure it is flat or with only lows that I can fill with body filler.
Body filler is a necessary evil IMHO and I always aim to use the minimal amount.

While the outer surface of the inner skin has been primed and painted roughly with some old spray can paint I have no further use for and decided to use it up as a rust preventative.

The inner face of the inner skin is coming along nicely, considering my skill level and next week I hope to be ready to purchase some spray on primer high fill that will hopefully remove most of the minor scores and marks in preparation for further work later.

Next steps will be to cut the air cleaner opening in the outer skin and press the lip into it and the do some more body filler work in readiness for the mating of the two skins to make the hood.

Sorry having trouble loading some of the pic's so laid the sideways.

Re: Cadflat Bead Roller Project.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:25 pm
by Oddbod
Progress has been slow, I have focused on other stuff as I am in the process of losing a finger nail due to mis-adventure in my shop.
I also had to do some slight re-work to the outer on one side to improve things.

Recently I have cut out the twin carb opening in the outer panel and prepared it and installed this panel into my die ready for pressing.
I am already to press it now, but remain at the mercy of the guy who owns the press that has the throat capacity to accept my job.
Turns out he is really busy right now being one of the rare business's that has seemingly benefitted form the Covid19 out break.
His business is working 7 days per week at double shifts.

I say good for him and I can wait.
However, I will look else where in the meantime if I can find another press capable of taking my job.
It is a really simple exercise with the press and only takes one go at it and it is done...

I actually feel happy for this press guy as he has struggled to survive in his business for years and I wondered if the virus event could be enough to close his business for good, but to his surprise it has done the opposite, he definitely deserves it.

Re: Cadflat Bead Roller Project.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:50 am
by Oddbod
Well, I decided I could not wait for access to my buddies press.
I found a brick garage door opening with a high gable over head and a steel lintel supporting it all and it had a good concrete floor.

I took a bottle jack and cut a length of 2 inch pipe, capped the ends, placed the jack on my die setup, levelled it up and jacked away.
I watched as I raised the wall while jacking.
No just joking, the die pressed nice and slowly.
There was a fair weight of bricks and roof above.
It got a little off square early, but a big hammer sorted that out and the pressing was done in a couple of minutes.
I am happy with the result and so now will continue on as planned.

Re: Cadflat Bead Roller Project.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:44 am
by Oddbod
Just a change of pace for a few minutes...

Anybody know this hot rod or has more pic's of it, particularly the front. :think:
Any details appreciated. :?:

Russ. :pray:

Re: Cadflat Bead Roller Project.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:56 pm
by Oddbod
Found it...

This sedan was built by the auto body class at Washtenaw Community College MI, and also received a Street Rodder top 100 pick as well.
They build some great cars over there.

Some additional pic's can be found here.


Posted on May 2, 2019, 10:58 pm, by Nick Avgeres, under News

As long-time hot rodders, this is one of those stories that truly warms our hearts and assures us that the future of hot rodding is alive and well. The story begins with Washtenaw Community College and Shadow Rods in Michigan who set out to work with this year’s students to build what they considered to be the ultimate street rod. The subject of the project – a classic Ford Model A. The goal of the program is to provide students the opportunity to learn and develop skills within the automotive trades, including mechanical, electrical, fabrication and welding, machining, collision course, and custom body and paint courses to coincide with the complete vehicle build.

Throughout the course of the project, the students honed their skills and put them to the test on the Model A as they prepared to debut the vehicle at the 2019 Detroit Autorama car show. The goal for the finished vehicle was a show-worthy appearance and, we have to say, they absolutely nailed it. The exterior of the vehicle, which dons a custom-mixed color hand-selected by the instructors and students, looks simply stunning. While the vehicle has a few final details to be finished, the class met its goal and displayed the vehicle at this year’s Detroit Autorama as planned.

That front axle must be an optical illusion as front pic shows that it is under the cross member and not in front as it seems to appear in the side pic... :?:

The hood also looks longer than stock, but that too maybe an illusion.
Great hot rod and a credit to those who built it. :clap:

Re: Cadflat Bead Roller Project.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:43 am
by RiverPatrol

Re: Cadflat Bead Roller Project.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:41 am
by Oddbod
I got some bad news.
My pressing has turned into a disaster.
During the setting up in the die, since the cut out is not exactly central, I have some how transposed the measurement to the opposite hand and have pressed in the wrong area as such.

Sometimes I was working on the outer side of my hood and other times on the underside...
The opening still clears the air cleaners but the hole does not sit evenly clear around the air cleaner heads.
Time to take a few deep breathes and think outside the square once more.

Re: Cadflat Bead Roller Project.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:55 am
by Esteban
Sorry to hear about that. Frustrating to say the least.

Keep at it. I'm sure you'll find the right solution.

Re: Cadflat Bead Roller Project.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:47 am
by Oddbod
Well, I cut the offending piece out and intend to weld in its place the test pressing I did earlier.
That should work out OK.
My main concern is the outer skin is pretty thin material and so I will need to take my time and keep it cool.
Never thought that I'd have a use for that test piece and now here I am using it...

Re: Cadflat Bead Roller Project.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:13 pm
by Oddbod
As usual, progress has been slow but in the right direction.
I got the alternative piece welded in.
It went pretty well, but did end up with a slight distortion.
I decided to have a go at panelling it out and was very successful to a point.
Once I had satisfied myself that it was out of my pay grade I put two small cuts and welded the gaps and it pulled up just right.

In the meantime, I have dropped my cell phone which did damage to my camera and it wont focus right, so not too many pic's until I find a new phone replacement.

Re: Cadflat Bead Roller Project.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:01 pm
by Esteban
Good progress!! The pictures have good detail.

Can you remind us the thickness of the steel sheet that you’re welding?

Re: Cadflat Bead Roller Project.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:54 pm
by Oddbod
Thanks Esteban, yes I am getting there, but I get the feeling I am destine to doing things the hard way while Murphy's law continues to apply.
Thank God for some good luck along the way...

The outer sheet metal is 1.0mm and the inner sheet metal is 1.2mm thick.
There was a noticeable difference in warp between the 2 skins since I have welded on both of them now.
The 1.2mm sheet is pretty reasonable to deal with but the 1.0mm seems to have a mind of its own and caution and patience must be exercised.