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Postby Oddbod » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:22 pm

The diff was chained down and straightened within 30 minutes.
The main bent issue required a little heat to get it to relax enough to reset it back to the correct alignment.
It was bent pretty bad, over 1" out of alignment at the wheel bearing position.
It was then noted that the other end also required a very minor jacking which did not require any heat to correct.

Concerned about the accuracy of my unit, I took another Ford 9" diff which had been repaired and straightened professionally and set it up with my alignment tools to see if I was any where close.
I was satisfied to discover that it was also true with my alignment tool and was perfect, so I take tow things from this exercise;
Firstly, that my straightening works works as anticipated,
Secondly, that my alignment tool is true and accurate.
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Postby mad4hws » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:40 pm

so, if I happen to be in Australia and bend my axle, I know where to go to get it fixed! Its a great feeling when all of the time an effort that you invest is rewarded with good results. Nicely done!
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Postby Esteban » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:19 am

Very entertaining to follow this, and to learn something along the way. The photos tell a lot and are a perfect complement to your descriptions.

You talked about narrowing the housing. In that case do you also shorten the axles and then machine the splines, or is there an aftermarket source for them? Just curious.
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Postby Oddbod » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:46 pm

mad4hws wrote:so, if I happen to be in Australia and bend my axle, I know where to go to get it fixed! Its a great feeling when all of the time an effort that you invest is rewarded with good results. Nicely done!


Sure, come on down any time.
I'm sure we have some rough terrain to test any axle housings.
It looks simple but I did spend a lot of time doing precise measurement, because a 1mm out in the center transfer to a lot more out at the end.
I am no machinist and hence every step of the way has been fraught with challenges and fear of damaging my material and then needing to repurchase.

I am really happy with the results and thanks for your interest and comments.
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Postby Oddbod » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:55 pm

Esteban wrote:Very entertaining to follow this, and to learn something along the way. The photos tell a lot and are a perfect complement to your descriptions.

You talked about narrowing the housing. In that case do you also shorten the axles and then machine the splines, or is there an aftermarket source for them? Just curious.


Esteban, there are several ways to come up with axles to suit.
Since we are dealing with Ford 9" differential components, they are generally plentiful and available from numerous sources, new or used.
Since these Ford diffs were used in many applications there are many axle lengths to choose from.

It is only my intention to ever use axle lengths that are OEM sizes, but custom lengths and re-splined options also exist.
I work on the principle to decided on a diff width and then seek existing axles to come somewhere close to my determined O/A width.
It is quite common for guys to seek a matching short axle or a pair of long axles to match what they already have so only one additional axle needs to be purchased.

Similarly with Ford 9" components many crown wheel ratios are easily available from approx 2.75:1 thru to 5.80:1 from memory, so a huge range to choose from for doing high speed runs at Bonneville to rock crawling in the Rocky's.

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Postby Oddbod » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:53 pm

Well, back onto my bead roller project and I have struck all number of problems with the VFD drive unit.
I have been in touch with the manufacturer in China which has been cordial but language plus media control has prevented easy communications.
It turns out there is either a programming error or glitch or my motor is not matching well to the signals being sent by the VFD.

At one point it did all that it was asked of it while running from the units control panel, but in most instances end users require a remote hook up to these units and this is where my problems appeared.

The manufacturer has been reasonable but has not been able to solve my problem.
I have other Forum members digging deep to see what solutions can be found.

In the meantime I have de-rated the top speed limit which allows all functions to work but just not at a speed that is optimum during must machining.
I just need a break thru out of left field to get things back on track...
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Postby RiverPatrol » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:05 am

Hope you find that break thru.
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Postby Oddbod » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:03 pm

Yes me too a break thru would be great, right now I am feeling the heat of this problem which has taken me into unfamiliar waters and with the weather here right now up over the 100 degrees mark, I think that I'd rather be in your neck of the woods in CA.
Nice town Temecula.
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Postby RiverPatrol » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:15 am

Temecula is very nice, but we do get our summer weather as well.
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Postby Oddbod » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:04 pm

Yes, I am sure you do, I use to have kin who resided in Beaumont CA and I did spend time there on a good number of occasions between 2004 thru to 2016 before they moved out of State.
I recall some really hot days there in July.
The temperature differential from the coast to inland was quite amazing going by the weather channels.

More kin in Phoenix AZ, now that is hot...
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Postby RiverPatrol » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:10 am

Beaumont is about an hour away. It can actually get colder there in winter and hotter in summer. Here we still get a good measure of the coastal influence, we'll get the coastal overcast during early summer. It is 10 degrees cooler here than 15 minutes away in Elsinore because of that coastal influence. The name 'Temecula' is a Native American/Luiseno word that means 'where the mist meets the sky'. I have seen this phenomenon happen. That's not to say that it doesn't get hot here on occasion. Last year I hosted a young girl from Switzerland. She arrived here on July 5th. The next day we had a record breaking scorching day of 113 degrees; it literally killed many of my plants. She didn't get a chance to acclimate at all, she stayed in the pool most of the time. That wasn't good enough though. While she was here I took her on a road trip to San Francisco and other places. We were going to go to Yosemite but the park closed that day due to one of our infamous wildfires. So we went over Tioga and visited Mono Lake, stayed the night in June Lake. I was going to take her to Mammoth the next day but decided since she's from Switzerland thought maybe more mountains would be boring, so I gave her the option of seeing Death Valley. She said yes. So, I took a 15 year old from Switzerland to Death Valley, in July. The record high temperature in Death Valley is 134 degrees; we saw 129 degrees.
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Postby Oddbod » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:50 am

Yeah, Beaumont ain't no Beverley Hills that's for sure, but it seemed to improve over the past 14+ years I had been visiting kin there.
I recall, parts of Banning could be a bad place to go, but now that is also improved.
Once that area got the shopping mall with Walmart and Home Depot plus others and a lot of new housing it lost its quiet town image.

I've driven that I10 numerous times yet never taken the opportunity to check out Death Valley and surrounding attractions.
The best I've done out there was to go to a small water area north of the I10 north and east of Quartzite AZ which was nice (I forgot the name).
I had intentions of visiting that now famous AZ tourist spot nearby called the Desert Bar, but it was closed.
Access, I believe is limited to certain vehicles due to the terrain out there.
Probably a good road trip for the G60 Patrol folks.

Similarly, I drove past the Disneyland exits numerous times before I finally visited it.
Worth seeing once I guess.

San Francisco is one of my favourite places out west and I also enjoy stopping at Moro Bay and Ventura once in a while.
I have driven the US50 highway from beginning in CA to end in CO in a busted ass 1961 F100 (loaded) that cost me all of $900 and ran a Y block V8 engine that used a quart of oil every 3 hours of driving time (and never missed a beat), now that was much more like where I live in Australia.
No fancy gas or burger stops out there.
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Postby RiverPatrol » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:28 am

Oddbod wrote:The best I've done out there was to go to a small water area north of the I10 north and east of Quartzite AZ which was nice (I forgot the name).
I had intentions of visiting that now famous AZ tourist spot nearby called the Desert Bar, but it was closed.
Access, I believe is limited to certain vehicles due to the terrain out there.
Probably a good road trip for the G60 Patrol folks.


I think you're referring to Parker, AZ, on the Colorado river. I have spent much time south of there, hence the name RiverPatrol. Been to the Desert Bar a few times, by dune buggy. They've got a graded road to it now so any vehicle can get there. It's only open in the winter, like right now. Quartzite is always interesting this time of year when it becomes a sea of RVs and a huge flea market and gem show.
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Postby Oddbod » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:57 pm

So much more to see in your country.
I have been blessed to have enjoyed much travel and experiences without the need to seek out all the big ticket places, although there are a few of them that I would like to see one day.

Sadly, I have the title of being able to say that I had been on top of the World Trade Center, had visited the hole after demolition, visited the temporary memorial and have since seen the new construction.
Being on top of the WTC struck me immediately as too how high up I was and the fact that aircraft were flying by at even lower altitude than the top of the building, it was airy for a young fella from out of town.

I also gotten to the top of the Empire State Building, the Statue of Liberty and eaten several burgers in the Seinfeld Restaurant in NYC.
Actually got a car park right out the front of this place.
I've been told Kramer turns up on occasions and sprukes outside on the pavement, but to date I have not seen him there yet.

I've crossed the Rocky's at 3 different points and visited the other Las Vegas in NM, the home of Billy the Kid and driven numerous miles on the old Rte 66.
Been to the Four Corners and climbed Wolf Creek Pass CO.
Some were hard earned driving miles but well worth the experience.

I drove to the Grand Canyon via Flagstaff AZ, only to be turned around due to fires and then when in NV drove to the Hoover Dam, only to be turned around by the security guys because I had a large box in the bed of my pickup which caused them some concern.
I understood but it was just old car parts being shipped home via LA port.

Maybe you could start a thread asking folks to tell us how they came up with their forum name on here, as you have just mentioned about yours.
Mine is Oddbod which I am sure that most folks understand it to mean somebody a little different.
I'm not 100% sure if I fit that title exactly, but in my work on mining at one time I gained the title of the nutty professor, due to the out of left field solutions I used to come up with when we struck engineering construction problems.
Fortunately for me they all worked, so I had 100% strike rate in that regard.
So for now Oddbod it is...
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Postby RiverPatrol » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:56 am

Sounds as though you've seen more of this country that many that live here. I've never been to New York other than to fly in to the airport and be driven to Pennsylvania. I often thought I could take a month just to tour Arizona. It is indeed a very diverse country with much to see.

I think there was a thread at one time for folks to divulge the meaning behind their user names.
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