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Postby L60Boerne » Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:27 pm

Greetings to Patrol Whisperers Worldwide,

The mechanical portion of the Phoenix Patrol recovery is moving along nicely. Pictures to be uploaded once I can sneak away to Eddy the Eagle's clandestine workshop.

To Date:
- Re-core of radiator
- New custom fuel tank
- Rob Moore Petronix ignition upgrade
- New hoses
- Replacement water thermostat and housing
- Rebuilt fuel pump and lines
- Rebuilt Rochester Carb
- Reestablishment of correct air filter and housing

Long way to go mechanically but parts are on the floor ready to go:
- New alternator
- New wheel cylinders
- Valve Tune Up
- Wiper motors overhaul
- Replacement of lost grill

Then we get into the other things:
- Re-connection of map light
- Re-connection of correct choke and knob
- Aux LED lights

Patrolling in circles,
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Postby L60Boerne » Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:37 pm

Greetings,
Eddy the Eagle has been busy in his hilltop Indian Point lair. Though these pictures don't do his work justice I can report:
- rebuilt starter
- rebuilt Rochester carb
- rebuilt fuel pump
- reinstalled and new core radiator and hoses
- Petronix electronic starter
- custom new fuel tank in OEM skid plate

Motor is best of my four, very smooth, no smoke.

Next will be alternator exchange, new brake system

Then some paint and body work.

Phoenix Patrol will be a soft top so if anyone needs a good hard top please let me know..storage will not be kind to this top as I have no dry place to store it.

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Postby plateaucal » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:44 pm

What' with the blue tube. It looks like it is sucking unfiltered air into the carb?
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Postby L60Boerne » Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:10 pm

Your asking me? :shock: :pray: I thought it was just a straw left over from his 42 oz slurpee from lunch....now I have to ask..
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Postby plateaucal » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:00 pm

In the end...does any of it matter? However, since you don't have a waterproof distributor, block those things off.
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Postby RiverPatrol » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:26 pm

plateaucal wrote:What' with the blue tube. It looks like it is sucking unfiltered air into the carb?


It looks to me like it’s just looped up to the other nipple on the air filter, not going to the carb. So essentially it is blocked off. The only vacuum fitting to the carb already has a line to it.

He’s not running the water protect distributor? I thought he just put a Pertronix on it.
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Postby L60Boerne » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:55 pm

Thank you for your help and observations.

A). For now it will not have a water proof distributor. I have two and maybe Eddy can make one good one from the two...but that is way down the road.
The installed non waterproof distributor has been rebuilt and includes the Petronix upgrade. It runs very well.

B). The blue slurpie tube is considered a air catheter by Eddy. It may or may not have a purpose.

C). Eddy found my $650 custom fuel tank was not lined so it is going back to fab shop.

D). I would appreciate advice as to why generators are replaced by alternators. They see to do the same thing but differently?

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Postby plateaucal » Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:32 am

It may be a minor deal but the connection on the left is to the clean air side of the air flow (after filter/low pressure). The one on the right is unfiltered air (atmosphere). So it could pull in dusty air from through the top of the carb. It's a funny setup but it seems the whole purpose of the arrangement is to utilize the pressure drop across the filter to cause and air flow through the tubes to the waterproof distributor. I assume it is for ventilation of the distributor, maybe for cooling or incidental moisture removal. I would imagine that the air flow through six feet of 1/8" tubing and four orifices isn't much but the air flow without the tubing may be good enough to suck in some Texas dust.
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Postby moore_rb » Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:42 am

Agree with Chris- If you're not gonna hook up the WP distributor lines, then just replace the blue line with a pair of rubber plugs, and call it good.
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Postby plateaucal » Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:05 am

L60Boerne wrote:Thank you for your help and observations.

A). For now it will not have a water proof distributor. I have two and maybe Eddy can make one good one from the two...but that is way down the road.
The installed non waterproof distributor has been rebuilt and includes the Petronix upgrade. It runs very well.

B). The blue slurpie tube is considered a air catheter by Eddy. It may or may not have a purpose.

C). Eddy found my $650 custom fuel tank was not lined so it is going back to fab shop.

D). I would appreciate advice as to why generators are replaced by alternators. They see to do the same thing but differently?

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The only generators I've worked on were in the range of a few hundred megawatts, but the theory is the same. I think the main advantages to alternators are: smaller and more current at all speeds including idle. Alternators became favorable for these reasons with the development of diode technology needed to convert the alternating current. But, generators look cooler in an old engine bay.
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