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Re: Shocks

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:59 pm
by bosque
I'll take your word for it that they are the cream of the crop.
So I guess I need to educate myself on the make up of a shock and learn all the differences that make KYB hands down better. I definitely want the best for my money and time. I guess they lost me when I did not take the time to cross reference like Esteban did.
What convinced you that KYB is a better product? Materials, precision milling, higher standards of longevity, product name?
I've done some poking around and found.....
.....I also have seen steering damper shocks with a KAYABA stamp. This is KYB. Japanese company using Indonesia Spain Malasia and now China for auto shocks with Vietnam making motorcycle shocks.
Their main cry for a better product is:
Monotube design for higher demands than Twintube types that came factory original.
Twintube type shocks are standard and fine for normal applications but evidently KYB has a Monotube design that has a quicker response rate has no performance fade due to aeration. It uses a single fluid valve in the moving piston while a second piston separates the fluid from a high pressure nitrogen gas chamber. This enables a faster responsiveness than Twintubenshocks. Twins have two chambers (outside and inside) and two valves, one controls the rebound and the other controls the compression with low pressure nitro gas in the whole unit to reduce air exposure.
They do have the data in detail by part # in Product Information, KYB Shock Dimensions at www.kyb.com
While this does not convince me that another company out there has an equal or superior Monotube product, I will rely on that you, Esteban/River/2869ral, know way more than me.
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Re: Shocks

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:21 pm
by Socalwrencher
Am I correct to assume that all 4 corners are the same part number?

Re: Shocks

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:59 pm
by Coyote Patrol
Socalwrencher wrote:Am I correct to assume that all 4 corners are the same part number?
Yes they are all the same.

Re: Shocks

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:09 pm
by Urban60
Esteban wrote:I did some digging regarding this. Started with a couple of numbers from the compatible parts and then cross referenced between Monroe, Gabriel, and KYB, and then looking at the individual dimensions. Not that many choices. By the way, I couldn't find KYB part # 1924052 that 2869ral posted.

KYB doesn't list the dimensions of its shocks like Monroe and Gabriel, so I'm just using the same vehicle application.

A Nissan pocket size technical data book that I have, lists the stroke of the shocks at 7.1" (180 mm)

Insert disclaimer here. :twisted: :twisted:

Original Suspension
Brand and TypePart #Ext.Comp.TravelApplication
Monroe Sensa-Track582616.375"10.125"6.25"57-60 Ford F-100
Monroe Monro-Matic3106917.25"10.75"6.5"65-73 Ford Mustang, rear
Gabriel Guardian8127017.67"10.56"7.11"1960 F-100, front
KYB Excel-G343219nanana65-73 Ford Mustang, rear
KYB Gas-A-JustKG5517nanana65-73 Ford Mustang, rear
Suspension with 2" Lift
Brand and TypePart #Ext.Comp.TravelApplication
Gabriel Classic8212520.67"12.06"8.61"72-82 Ford Courier, rear
Monroe Monro-Matic3112520.75"12.25"8.5"72-82 Ford Courier, rear
Monroe Max-AirMA73920.875"12.375"8.5"72-82 Ford Courier, rear
KYB Excel-G344052nanana72-82 Ford Courier, rear
Long time ago, facing the scarcity of choices for the specific shocks of the Patrol, studs on top and bottom, I changed the lower anchor points on mine so an "eye" type could be fitted. Have not regreted this change at all. In fact, the chances of hitting the lower stud into an obstacle are big!

The KYB Excel-G Part # 343219 has a ext lenght 17.400" ,, Compression Length 10.310 inch,,,Travel 7.090 I checked this with the parts place today.
Note also that KYB part # 1924052 that 2869ral used has the same last four digits as the 344052 KYB Excel-G That Esteban listed. ;)

Re: Shocks

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:51 pm
by Keith
Bringing up old posts again. I did contract meter reading for the local electric company for 15 years. Very backwoods routes. High speed rough terrain. Kind of like a Baja race thru the rocks of the Ozark hillls. Nothing else would hold up on my Hardbodies like a KYB shock. I have KYBs on my 69 Patrol. Esteben mentioned changing the bottom mount to an eye mount. Here is the opposite so it might open up options for other shock fitment. Pro Comp 690001 Shock Eye to Stud Adapter Kit.

Re: Shocks

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:11 pm
by bosque
The shocks are made in Japan.
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Part #: KY343219


KYB GR-2/EXCEL-G SHOCK ABSORBER

This highly efficient Shock Absorber is an OE equivalents manufactured to recapture control and handling precisions to your vehicle. Sintered-iron pistons, guide rods and hard-chrome piston rods heighten thi Shock Absorber and Strut Assembly
KYB
Qty: 4.00
Price: $ 21.48