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Re: Starters for sale
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:08 pm
by rdarnell
I must admit, I am a little confused. Will that starter work on the earlier engine?
Re: Starters for sale
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:32 am
by r1lark
rdarnell wrote:I must admit, I am a little confused. Will that starter work on the earlier engine?
Thanks, glad I'm not the only one!
Re: Starters for sale
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:19 am
by Esteban
rdarnell wrote:I must admit, I am a little confused. Will that starter work on the earlier engine?
The starter will work on all years of the
P engine fitted Patrols. (1962 - 1979)
Please note that the P40 engine that came around 1979-80 uses a different one.
Re: Starters for sale
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 6:16 pm
by ecigan
Esteban wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:19 am
rdarnell wrote:I must admit, I am a little confused. Will that starter work on the earlier engine?
The starter will work on all years of the
P engine fitted Patrols. (1962 - 1979)
Please note that the P40 engine that came around 1979-80 uses a different one.
Hi Esteban (and anyone else out there)--
My Patrol L60 is supposedly a 1961 model. Would this starter work on it? Just curious because the starter it has now has an 11-tooth cog gear that's fully exposed (no shroud whatsoever).
https://store.alternatorparts.com/partn ... 18110.aspx
Thanks!
--Eric
Re: Starters for sale
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 6:55 pm
by Esteban
ecigan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 6:16 pmHi Esteban (and anyone else out there)--
My Patrol L60 is supposedly a 1961 model. Would this starter work on it? Just curious because the starter it has now has an 11-tooth cog gear that's fully exposed (no shroud whatsoever).
https://store.alternatorparts.com/partn ... 18110.aspx
Thanks!
--Eric
If your engine is a P engine, it will work. All the USA Patrols are with that engine. I'm a little confused by what you mean that there's no shroud. Could you please post a picture?
The above corresponds to a Hitachi S114-184, and that's the number stamped on mine (bought as a replacement many years ago!) With that number you can find other places as well.
https://www.amazon.com/DB-Electrical-SH ... B00AWMRLGM
Re: Starters for sale
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 6:11 pm
by ecigan
Hi Esteban--
Thanks for the response -- it's been busy here with home remodeling projects underway, so it took me a while to get back to this.
I disassembled my starter to clean it out and lube it, so I've attached a photo showing its mounting plate and cog gear next to the new starter. I didn't know the proper term for the partial cover over the cog gear for the new starter, so that's the "shroud" to which I referred.
Note that the cog gear on my starter has 11 teeth.
My Patrol is in winter storage, so I haven't tried mounting this new starter, but I have my concerns. What's your assessment?
--Eric
Re: Starters for sale
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 6:47 pm
by Esteban
ecigan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 6:11 pm
Hi Esteban--
Thanks for the response -- it's been busy here with home remodeling projects underway, so it took me a while to get back to this.
I disassembled my starter to clean it out and lube it, so I've attached a photo showing its mounting plate and cog gear next to the new starter. I didn't know the proper term for the partial cover over the cog gear for the new starter, so that's the "shroud" to which I referred.
Note that the cog gear on my starter has 11 teeth.
My Patrol is in winter storage, so I haven't tried mounting this new starter, but I have my concerns. What's your assessment?
--Eric
Thanks Eric for the picture. Easy to understand what you said before.
It definitely looks like an aftermarket starter, or you have a totally different engine!
Very interesting!
Re: Starters for sale
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:35 am
by ecigan
Thanks for giving this a look, Esteban. I definitely have a P engine. I'm unsure of the model year, though -- it was sold to me as a 1961 Patrol L60, but it came equipped with a hydraulic clutch, which I have heard wasn't standard till several years after that.
Just to clarify, are you saying that my old starter was an after-market one? The new one is the 18110N that was mentioned on this thread.
Thanks a bunch,
--Eric
Re: Starters for sale
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:07 am
by Esteban
Glad to hear you do have the P engine. When you have a chance, post the numbers of chassis and engine so RiverPatrol can sort it out in terms of proper year.
Your old starter is the aftermarket one. Never seen one like it in the Patrol.
Re: Starters for sale
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 12:03 pm
by ecigan
Esteban wrote: ↑Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:07 am
Glad to hear you do have the P engine. When you have a chance, post the numbers of chassis and engine so RiverPatrol can sort it out in terms of proper year.
Your old starter is the aftermarket one. Never seen one like it in the Patrol.
Hello Esteban and RiverPatrol--
Yes, I'd like some help learning more about my L60. I was told by the firm that sold it to me that it was a 1961 model (they even said that it had once been used by the Japanese embassy in Bogota), but I have my doubts. For instance, it has a hydraulic clutch, and I've been told that Model 60s had a mechanical linkage for the clutch up till the late 1960s.
It looks like the serial number of the P engine is P 16447. Let me know if it would help to know the VIN, but I don't know if those old VINs mean much.
--Eric