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Re: Slowly Making Improvements to my '69 Patrol

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:32 pm
by miksum56
I gotta agree with Leslie. Broken axel!

Re: Slowly Making Improvements to my '69 Patrol

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:17 am
by alber garage
miksum56 wrote:I gotta agree with Leslie. Broken axel!
Yes, I think that's right. I just jacked up the rear end and the left axle (long side) has ridiculous play and you can rotate it very freely. I pulled it out and this is what it looks like:

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It looks very worn down and not right but I am having trouble picturing what it should look like. Is it supposed to be splined? Does anyone have a picture of a good one that I can look at as a reference?

Re: Slowly Making Improvements to my '69 Patrol

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:05 am
by Esteban
Sorry to hear of the broken axle.

In this thread you can see how the tip of the axle with its splined portion looks like:

http://www.60patrol.com/forum/viewtopic ... &start=120

It just shows the tip, without the rest of the axle, but you'll get an idea.

The shaving that you are posting looks like a shim for the bearings inside the differential, which will be totally unrelated to the other mishap. Hope you can find a replacement axle.

Re: Slowly Making Improvements to my '69 Patrol

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:08 am
by alber garage
Esteban wrote:Sorry to hear of the broken axle.

In this thread you can see how the tip of the axle with its splined portion looks like:

http://www.60patrol.com/forum/viewtopic ... &start=120

It just shows the tip, without the rest of the axle, but you'll get an idea.

The shaving that you are posting looks like a shim for the bearings inside the differential, which will be totally unrelated to the other mishap. Hope you can find a replacement axle.

Esteban,

That's great, thanks for the link. I might have a local connection to pick up another axle.

Re: Slowly Making Improvements to my '69 Patrol

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:26 pm
by alber garage
I just bought a parts rig to support me breaking stuff on my main one. I haven't even brought it home yet but I did pull an axle shaft to replace my damaged one.

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The guy I bought this from has a HUGE amount of Patrol parts. He also has more Internationals than I have ever seen in one place. If you need parts and are in the pacific northwest or Vancouver BC area this guy is a very good resource. He is an older guy and does not use the internet so you would have to be able to go to his location to make any deals.

I found out about him through ratpatrol66 on here.

Re: Slowly Making Improvements to my '69 Patrol

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:48 pm
by RiverPatrol
Nice score. That actually looks like a pretty fair Patrol. The body isn't hacked up anyway.

Re: Slowly Making Improvements to my '69 Patrol

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:19 pm
by alber garage
RiverPatrol wrote:Nice score. That actually looks like a pretty fair Patrol. The body isn't hacked up anyway.
Honestly, it is not too bad. The problem is there is no title so getting it back on the road would be a big hassle.

Re: Slowly Making Improvements to my '69 Patrol

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:40 pm
by RiverPatrol
alber garage wrote:
RiverPatrol wrote:Nice score. That actually looks like a pretty fair Patrol. The body isn't hacked up anyway.
Honestly, it is not too bad. The problem is there is no title so getting it back on the road would be a big hassle.
Harumph. Not a problem, simply an annoyance. ;)

Re: Slowly Making Improvements to my '69 Patrol

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:19 am
by alber garage
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What tool should I use to remove the rear axle bearing lock nut?

Re: Slowly Making Improvements to my '69 Patrol

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:54 am
by Esteban
One idea is to fabricate the "special tool" needed, modifying a spindle nut wrench like this one:

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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WMR-W1271

The idea is to cut the closed end for the 1/2" square drive, and weld handles to the sides. This is a picture that I borrowed:
Axle Nut Wrench.jpg
The other method that I've used a couple of times, is to use a blunt chisel and a hammer and hit the lock nut in a couple of places to make it rotate. You can use it to tighten the new bearing in place. However, the torque applied is unknown in either case.

This is a tip from member 67l60 on how to attain the torque (210-239 ft-lb) - Hope it's not copyrighted :twisted: .

I have found that 200 ft-lb can be done in the field with out
a proper torque wrench using the clamp method:
Pre-pack the new wheel bearings with grease, then tighten jam nut by hand,
until it stops hard.
Then mark your jam nut, and using a chisel and hammer drive it around until the wheel
bearings inner rollers won’t move. I/E Clamped.
This usually takes 1.5 full turns, also the grease will have squeezed out slightly.
Now spin the hub, it should be very tight with no wobble, may even make a growl at you as it
Spins.
If so great! ! ! ! back off jam nut 1 lobe and set the spider lock and reinstall
inner axle. And don’t forget to shim and check thrust to specs.


We need pictures of this. Are you going to change the bearing?

Part numbers
Spare parts at NAPA:
Bearing: ATM 959
Inner seal: ATM 2116213
Outer Seal: NOS-550225