Green Machine Rebuild Starts 5-9-16 - Patrollee Help Needed

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Re: Green Machine Rebuild Starts 5-9-16 - Patrollee Help Nee

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A salute to all those who serve our country and protect our freedom.

The Patrol draws a crowd whenever parked here ..... one of the off road capitols of the USA, Lake City, CO which Jeeps everywhere.

Yesterday, while parked in front of the bakery a guy in a truck caught a glimpse of my 63 Patrol as he passed at 25 mph on the main drag. Upin spotting it he quickly cut his wheels, locked up his brakes and skidded to a stop in the gravel near the bakery.

He just stopped and stared out his open window through the dust. He pondered the rig for about a minute, then drove on.

Pics from 12,800 ft soon.

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Re: Green Machine Rebuild Starts 5-9-16 - Patrollee Help Nee

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Trouble in Paradise,

Well, the Patrol was running so well, but rich, I decided to not put in the high altitude jet. Well, it ran great right up to the point it would not start, it smelled flooded but should not have been.

It turns over but no spark. I'm thinking the low altitude jet fouled the spark plugs. Well this is why I haven't gone too far yet. I'll have it checked out. I should have followed the procedure.

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Re: Green Machine Rebuild Starts 5-9-16 - Patrollee Help Nee

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L60Boerne wrote:Trouble in Paradise,

Well, the Patrol was running so well, but rich, I decided to not put in the high altitude jet. Well, it ran great right up to the point it would not start, it smelled flooded but should not have been.

It turns over but no spark. I'm thinking the low altitude jet fouled the spark plugs. Well this is why I haven't gone too far yet. I'll have it checked out. I should have followed the procedure.

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David, hope you are able to sort this problem over there. If the #127 jet was installed, you shouldn't have had this flooding problem. You'll run very rich, but fowling of the spark plugs should happen over a long time. Please check the jet since it's very easy to change from the outside.

It is not unusual for a little debris to mess the needle valve at the fuel bowl and cause flooding. Specially when you subject your car for some use after not being used for quite a while. If you experience another flooding, please also check the fuel level on the glass sight to rule out that fuel is going non stop inside the bowl.
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Thank you Esteban, The fuel level in the sight glass seems correct. It almost seems like a loose wire somewhere. It stopped in front of the local hardware store this morning. I had a 66 Bronco on my right and a 71 Chevy on my left. Each driver a shade tree mechanic. No look, no spark. We tried to let it dry out and tried a start with the pedal floored. No spark under any condition. Same after three hour rest. But up until that point it ran perfect.

I have called the local garage to pick it up. He said it was very uncommon to need to change out the Jet. It still have whatever Jet was installed in Boerne. Like I said it ran very well with that Jet. I gave him your #127 jet and instructions from the forum, he thought it was something other than fouled plugs. He will report back this evening.

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Re: Green Machine Rebuild Starts 5-9-16 - Patrollee Help Nee

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Greetings,

It turns out the Igniter II electronic ignition. Is there a test procedure for the Igniter. The coil is fine.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Green Machine Rebuild Starts 5-9-16 - Patrollee Help Nee

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I can't speak specifically about the Igniter II for the Patrol, but I do know a several people who had problems with the original Pertronix Igniter. One thing that could kill the original igniters was leaving the key in the 'run' position without the engine running for an extended period of time. For some reason this sometimes would kill the module. Supposedly this was 'fixed' with the Igniter II. A lot of folks I know that use Igniters in their older vehicles carry a set of points in the glove box just in case. I don't ever remember seeing a 'test' procedure for the Igniter, but haven't needed one either.

I've had an original Igniter in one of my Studebakers for 15+ years without an issue. In fact, I doubt that the distributor cap has even been removed since the Igniter was installed.

Neither am I bashing nor promoting the Igniter, but just relaying information that I know.

Keep us informed as to what exactly you find.
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Re: Green Machine Rebuild Starts 5-9-16 - Patrollee Help Nee

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Thank you. Just trying now to source a replacement in Montrose.
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Re: Green Machine Rebuild Starts 5-9-16 - Patrollee Help Nee

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You can probably get one overnighted from somewhere.
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Re: Green Machine Rebuild Starts 5-9-16 - Patrollee Help Nee

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Greetings Patrollees Worldwide,

Today I finally got to meet Plateaucal in Montrose. What a Patrollee! I missed him last time when I picked up his excess soft top frame.

He graciously gave me his excess axles and drive shafts. Then he showed me his 67 Patrol which is a tool for hunting as well as cloud catching.

He gave me pointers, not the least of which is his dual reservoir brake system. He explained it so effortlessly and reminded me of his tutorial on the forum
Which, but the way, prompted me to order mine from Australia. Unfortunately, the brain trust around Boerne thought it was a combo salt and pepper shaker, so I could not incorporate it.
He says his Patrol exhibits catlike braking while mine still stop reluctantly.

What a nice guy. We agreed it is fun searching for parts . Why? Because this forum is so supportive and giving, thanks to the culture RiverPatrol, Esteban so many others promote.

You will need to pry my cold dead fingers from my 63 steering wheel before I will trade what I have received from the forum.

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Re: Green Machine Rebuild Starts 5-9-16 - Patrollee Help Nee

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Aw, such nice sentiments. It's the people like you and Plateaucal in the community that make it what it is. I just provide the medium. It does make the search for parts easier for those willing to try.
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