Possible Overdrive Setup

Upgrades, downgrades, modernizations, alterations or just being creative.
User avatar
Patrol Fanatic!
Patrol Fanatic!
Posts: 3000
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:28 am
Location: Lutherville, MD
Location: Lutherville, MD
Has thanked: 6010 times
Been thanked: 1600 times

Re: Possible Overdrive Setup

Post by Esteban »

moore_rb wrote:Justin, does Global Roamer need a full transfer case and a transmission combo to evaluate? or do they just need the TCase?
Unfortunately the shaft where the overdrive will be installed is shared by the transmission and transfer case. It's the output shaft from the transmission.
Owner of the same Patrol since 1967
User avatar
I love driving my Patrol!
I love driving my Patrol!
Posts: 931
Joined: Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:23 am
Location: Iola, Tx
Location: Iola, Tx
Has thanked: 97 times
Been thanked: 568 times
Contact:

Re: Possible Overdrive Setup

Post by jwgreen »

Esteban wrote:
moore_rb wrote:Justin, does Global Roamer need a full transfer case and a transmission combo to evaluate? or do they just need the TCase?
Unfortunately the shaft where the overdrive will be installed is shared by the transmission and transfer case. It's the output shaft from the transmission.
What he said. :text-yeahthat:
Justin
So, I just bought this Patrol….
So, I just bought this Patrol….
Posts: 51
Joined: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:48 pm
Location: Texas
Location: Jasper, Texas
Been thanked: 22 times

Re: Possible Overdrive Setup

Post by Wylder1324 »

I'd be willing to contribute to splitting
Shipping costs if someone comes
Up with necessary parts to get to
global. I'm definitely interested. Otherwise I've been thinking on other nissan engines to swap in for better speeds etc.
1965 Datsun L320
1969 Nissan Patrol
1975 Datsun 620 4x4 V8
1977 Datsun 280z
1985 Nissan 720 KC 4x4
1988 Nissan 300zx Turbo (sold)
1994 Nissan Pathfinder 4x4
1995 300zx TT (RIP)
2009 Nissan XTerra 4x4
User avatar
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 2460
Joined: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:49 pm
Location: Arizona
Location: Arizona
Has thanked: 800 times
Been thanked: 1269 times
Contact:

Re: Possible Overdrive Setup

Post by moore_rb »

Esteban wrote:
moore_rb wrote:Justin, does Global Roamer need a full transfer case and a transmission combo to evaluate? or do they just need the TCase?
Unfortunately the shaft where the overdrive will be installed is shared by the transmission and transfer case. It's the output shaft from the transmission.
Right, I understand that - My question was really angled more toward exactly what parts need to be shipped to them...? I know they need a Transfer gear case so they can fit the mounting bolt pattern for their OD unit, and they need a combo shaft in order to design their coupling sprag.... But do they need an entire functional transmission as well? A full transmission almost doubles the weight (and the shipping costs)

I have an extra, operational transfer case lying around just taking up space, and it has what's left of an incomplete (and inoperable) transmission bolted to it. If I separated the two, and send them the whole Tcase, along with the transmission output shaft slid into it, I'm wondering if that would be enough for them to do their design evaluation...?

If this would fit their needs, then all that would be left would be an hour with the pressure washer on this TCase, and then crate it up, and start gathering donations for the shipping costs... Oh, and we would need to gather enough shipping donations to cover two-way shipping, because I would want this transfer case back when they were done with it... :ugeek:
ImageImageImageImage

L-R:
White 65 Hardtop L60-3-00617 (undergoing restoration)
Red 65 hardtop 4L60-002565 (scrapped for parts)
66 Hardtop "El-Bondo Patrol", L60-00511 (Restored, then sold June2020)
Blue 67 Hardtop (sold March1997)
Green 62 Softtop L60-2-00504 (undergoing restoration)
User avatar
I love driving my Patrol!
I love driving my Patrol!
Posts: 931
Joined: Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:23 am
Location: Iola, Tx
Location: Iola, Tx
Has thanked: 97 times
Been thanked: 568 times
Contact:

Re: Possible Overdrive Setup

Post by jwgreen »

Ok guys I was keeping this under wraps until it developed a little more but seeing as how there is some more interest now, There is a certain member who has committed to hauling a trans/xfer case up to Global in the next month or so. Now that being said, there was someone else who made this claim (not a member of this forum) who fell way short and just started ignoring my messages. So with that, once I have truly secured a unit that has been supplied to Global then I will update you guys n gals on what the progress is. But if there is someone who would like to ship one or the required pieces up then I would be totally happy with that as well.

My only concern with sending just the xfer case and the shaft from the trans is alignment in such. Its been awhile since I've had mine apart in pieces in my had so I don't exactly recall if it would be held in place properly without the trans being there. Maybe Ron would know or be able to try and mock up the idea without the entire trans to see if it would work out.
Justin
User avatar
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 2460
Joined: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:49 pm
Location: Arizona
Location: Arizona
Has thanked: 800 times
Been thanked: 1269 times
Contact:

Re: Possible Overdrive Setup

Post by moore_rb »

Cool, thanks Justin- I'm just gonna chill out and let this Tcase keep gathering dust, then.... :handgestures-thumbup:

message me up if you ever need to loop back with me on my offer...
ImageImageImageImage

L-R:
White 65 Hardtop L60-3-00617 (undergoing restoration)
Red 65 hardtop 4L60-002565 (scrapped for parts)
66 Hardtop "El-Bondo Patrol", L60-00511 (Restored, then sold June2020)
Blue 67 Hardtop (sold March1997)
Green 62 Softtop L60-2-00504 (undergoing restoration)
User avatar
I love driving my Patrol!
I love driving my Patrol!
Posts: 931
Joined: Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:23 am
Location: Iola, Tx
Location: Iola, Tx
Has thanked: 97 times
Been thanked: 568 times
Contact:

Re: Possible Overdrive Setup

Post by jwgreen »

moore_rb wrote:Cool, thanks Justin- I'm just gonna chill out and let this Tcase keep gathering dust, then.... :handgestures-thumbup:

message me up if you ever need to loop back with me on my offer...
Will do bud.
Justin
So, I just bought this Patrol….
So, I just bought this Patrol….
Posts: 51
Joined: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:48 pm
Location: Texas
Location: Jasper, Texas
Been thanked: 22 times

Re: Possible Overdrive Setup

Post by Wylder1324 »

Very cool. We have 2 Patrols that would both likely be in for any sort of group buy you guys work out for a potential better deal. Keep me in the loop.
1965 Datsun L320
1969 Nissan Patrol
1975 Datsun 620 4x4 V8
1977 Datsun 280z
1985 Nissan 720 KC 4x4
1988 Nissan 300zx Turbo (sold)
1994 Nissan Pathfinder 4x4
1995 300zx TT (RIP)
2009 Nissan XTerra 4x4
User avatar
I love driving my Patrol!
I love driving my Patrol!
Posts: 1203
Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 5:35 pm
Location: Winslow
Has thanked: 652 times
Been thanked: 632 times
Contact:

Re: Possible Overdrive Setup

Post by Coyote Patrol »

Im sure they will need at least the tranny case with a stripped down output and the output bearing. That output shaft is held centered by the rear tranny case and that bearing. They will probably need all the gear ratios which i think can be found in the service manuals. I have 2-3 extra transmission cases, if it helps i can cut off the rear portion of the tranny case that bolts to the t-case. This way it could be bolted up to the t-case so it will hold an output shaft centered for their mock up. Let me know. Also i would love to get in this buy for an overdrive, but i dont think i can swing the expense at this time, but i would definitely be willing to pitch in some cash for the shipping expense to get this going. :D
User avatar
I love driving my Patrol!
I love driving my Patrol!
Posts: 931
Joined: Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:23 am
Location: Iola, Tx
Location: Iola, Tx
Has thanked: 97 times
Been thanked: 568 times
Contact:

Re: Possible Overdrive Setup

Post by jwgreen »

Thanks for the offer Ron but as of right now I think we might have it under control with someone toting a setup up there in the near future. If that doesn't happen again this time then I will start exploring the other route of shipping one up.
Justin
Post Reply